First off, these are a solid pair of headphones , better than everything at that price point maybe, IF you can get past the bad earpads and the very awkward design of it. These are very weird to bring out in public - trust me I've tried, the propriety cable is a pain, the coiled cable is weird, and these pretty much seem to be good for in-studio use. I don't produce much music, but from use of these I can say they are actually very detailed - sound stage is extremely narrow, but highs are sibilant and bass is deep. Properly amped, the sound signature of these are enjoyable, but I've always had to equalize these for maximum enjoyment. Overall I upgraded from these but I really would recommend these over the ATH M50X even, ONLY if you don't plan to take these outside and use them in public.