LOVE Milani lipliners. I have high-end lipliners as well , but honestly there are some really good & more affordable brands that does just as good of a job as high-end ones (and sometimes even better!) ...and Milani is one of them. Definitely my go-tos, along with Jordana & NYX. Great pigment and staying power, creamy formula & glides on easily without tugging on your lips. I have both the pencils and the mechanical pencils. I like the both...I find the regular pencils to have more staying power, but if I need to pack for travel, I usually bring my mechanical pencils as well just so I don't have to pack a sharpener.