I like these a lot, very similar to OCC's lip tars (if you're familiar with beauty you already know this). These are just as good for like half the price. I would rate the lip tars just the same for the fact that they can be very sticky to me sometimes, depending on color. You can use a thin layer, but they'll feel a bit dry then. Pigment is amazing, and they can leave a stain behind (which I personally like).