I was actually surprised to see that Bic had permanent markers in an array of colors now -- my impression was that they had black, blue, and red, and that was it. So when I needed some new colors, I gave these a try. Even though the points aren't as firm as Sharpies, these colors are nice and bright. I enjoyed using them and will probably purchase them again. Good price too. If you need nice long-lasting markers in vivid shades, give the Bic ones a try.